Younger and more open minded JW's are quicker to skate by the rules on technicalities or loopholes so long as the inactive one plays his cards right and doesn't draw any lines in the sand and forces anyone to "take a stand". I'm sure they rationalize that since the individual isn't physically present, what's the harm? If this was officially brought to anyone's attention, I'm sure it would be stopped.
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Inactive brother that on line games with fellow JWs
by joe134cd injust wanting to know if anyone knows of a similar case and what's the deal with it.
i have an inactive jw acquaintance who hasn't been inside a kh for at least a couple of years.
yet the weird thing is there is a net work of jws that he dose on line gaming with.
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what things can we say
by pepperheart inwhat sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .
ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.
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I keep a few photo copies of the old magazine covers and information(shown below), on the book case in my front entry hall. They don't seem to see the humor when they offer their current literature and I show them these old ones and ask "so what happened??" You do see a light bulb go on in their heads however much they try to hide it.
I suppose a person could carry copies of these with them and leave them next to the literature on a trolley or with the persons attending the trolley and say " JW's spent countless hours and years of their lives blanketing the earth with this literature and those who didn't take their magazines were said to be "goats" and it all turned out to be wrong. How about the literature you have here today....will it stand the test of time or are you misleading people and wasting your time too?"
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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?
by Darkknight757 inso i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.
for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.
i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.
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Pete Zahut
Rather than an saying I'm an Atheist (gasp) I call myself an "Enthusiastic Agnostic". I'd love for someone to prove to me without a shadow of a doubt, the existence of God and undeniable proof that a paradise awaits us. I'll be the first one to do whatever he/she wants me to do, once it is clear. So far, nothing along these lines are provable and until they are, I can't in good conscience be expected to go from door to door showing people the same feeble bits of cobbled together reasonings that we currently have. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
If there is a God and there is a paradise in store for us, there is no reason I too shouldn't be a part of it. My wife could see the reasonableness of this and couldn't provide any information for me or herself, that wasn't easily refutable.
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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I'm not mad....could care less if they finally get to have a bit of fun instead of boring, somber, tight laced, buttoned up, stale meetings week after week.Makemeanunbeliever 19 hours ago
Sounds like y'all are mad cause you left the "family"?I do however find it ironic that having grown up as a JW and a former Bethelite, how scripture after scripture was sited to show us why, when it comes to worshiping Jehovah, we weren't allowed to be anything but "serious minded" "not emulating the world" "modest not drawing attention to ourselves" etc. We couldn't even have a non witness song in our weddings or have dancing at our get togethers.
We got scolded by the Circuit Overseer for having a 50's costume party because we were emulating the world by dressing in 50's garb and playing 50's music when we should have been dressed like Witnesses in the 50's and reenacting how they would have gone from door to door (I kid you not).
Now it seems the Bible has been re-written and what was wrong for us to do, is ok...even on the assembly hall platform apparently !
I say go for it...this is just the further proof I need to confirm that this is no longer the religion I was pretty much forced to dedicate my life to and it will be just the kind of thing to wake up those who's eyes are beginning to be opened to how fast JW's are becoming just another fundamentalist mainstream religion.
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Is the Pioneer School being eliminated?
by wannaexit ini heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.. i could see this happening.
it used to be that you went to the the pioneer school once.
then they allowed dubs to go every 5 years.
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I heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.
Well this is just further proof that the terrorists are winning !
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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Pete Zahut
The brothers in the band brazenly sing one of the most popular R&B songs of all time, whose lyrics celebrate the lustful feelings of a man or woman under the spell of love ("I Feel Good") and shimmying across the floor to denote anything but dignity and spirituality.
And (gasp)...said "shimmying" was done in britches that were kinda' tight.
What will Tony Morris have to say once he gets wind of this? (oh, and he will ).
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I kind of like that photo and it might be nice to go to meeting where things are a bit more "open air" rather than in a stuffy closed up building. This building may be just the right thing for that area and would be easy to repair and maintain. Folks who live there may only need a place to get in out of the direct sun or the occasional rain shower and may be glad they don't have to come up with the money to build an maintain a more formal building. Perhaps they even have a portable generator to run their flat screen (if internet is even available).
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This is all they could afford once their funds were handed over to the folks back at headquarters.
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New York Times article Dec 31 2015
by Gayle inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.
jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.
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I can't imagine even the Watchtower would stoop so low as to place their world headquarters in a small town like Warwick and expect to receive all city services free of charge.
I believe, in order to save on fire insurance costs, they have their own fire dept at Patterson so they may do the same at Warwick. Hopefully they won't need the Police much or the school system. They shouldn't have as much of an impact on the Warwick area proper, compared to Brooklyn where they shared the streets and sidewalks with the public. They will be on their own private compound now, rather than in the middle of a populated City. They may have wells on site for water but will need power and sewer unless they've got some kind of on site system of their own. If they need outside utilities, I imagine they'll pay the same rates for those as anyone else (maybe not). Shipping and trucking needs have gone down due to less printing and shipping of magazines and paper deliveries are likely reduced in comparison to what it was in Brooklyn. In order to get the land use permits they needed, the local Warwick government may have required them to widen their main road of usage, put in sidewalks and traffic lights to accommodate the new draw of visitors and additional trucking needs.
I imagine the Warwick Chamber of Commerce may welcome the draw of outsiders to their area, who may frequent their businesses etc. In my mind, this complex will be self supporting enough that JW visitors and residents won't go beyond the walls of their own compound for food, accommodations and the like. The Brooklyn neighborhood complained about this back when I was in Bethel. They thought the Watchtower was far to insular and put a strain on the local free public amenities without having any real beneficial impact on the local businesses.
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New York Times article Dec 31 2015
by Gayle inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.
jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.
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I don't want to be one of those folks who rags on the Watchtower, finding fault with everything they do. After all, as we all know, there are two sides to every story and people say a lot of things in newspapers...even the New York Times.
That being said, it must be pointed out that if this same accusation was made against the Catholic Church, there'd be a nice little write up about it the back of the AWAKE magazine, along with some terse comment made about it being further proof that the Catholic Church is part of Satan's empire of false religion," Babylon the Great".
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My Experience with Wordly Guys
by LaurenM insorry, two posts in a day..but i need to vent something: so far my experience with "worldly" guys has not been the best 1. my first guy experience was with a dude who left state and never came back 2. a coworker asked me to netflix and chill and i did 3. a guy wanted to sext me all the time but never took me out on a date and i did 4. a guy who took me on a great date but then asked me up to his apartment immediately after and then didn't call me after 5. finally, another great date, until after the guy texted me asking for nude pics..told him no!
so basically i've concluded that i had been giving off a vibe that i had no self respect and that was confirmed by me allowing them to use me as a sex object..but i'm hoping that not all worldly guys are like this, and when i start acting like i have self respect, they will treat me like that too?
is that a good assumption?
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Before giving any real advice, I'd like to know more about the kind of places and/or how you met the guys you described in your opening post. How did the conversation get started? Did you immediately get asked out or was it after having been around them over a period of time etc ?
Depending on the setting (where when how) you first met, certain assumptions may have been made on the part of the guy without you realizing it. It would be good to know that detail so as to have a better picture of what's going on.
Also, if the guy seems a bit too at ease when he approaches you or is rather quick about asking you out after just having met, he may be a bit of a player. Although it's flattering to have someone take an interest in you especially if you're at all nervous or shy and you find it's easier for when they are a bit aggressive about it, If he's just going from one girl to the next and you're looking for something more long term, it would be good to figure that out up front by gathering some clues about the guy and how he operates.
When someone asks you out, you could screen the unwanted types by letting him know you and some friends are going to be at such and such a place on Friday, then saying " Maybe I'll see you there ? " If he's just looking for the here and now, he won't likely be interested. If he does show up and you hit it off and he asks you out again, you could suggest doing something similar. If he's interested in you and not a quick hook up, he'll agree to seeing you any way he can. He'll also be less likely to assume that you're a girl who is more causal about dating than you really are and that he needs to play his cards carefully if he wants you to take him seriously.
Jerks and clods who ask for or send X-rated pics are a dime a dozen and they're the ones who are the most vocal and aggressive. To them you're fair game...you're supposed to know the score. There are plenty of guys out there who know how to behave but they are more reserved and harder to spot.
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